I was watching Charlie Rose one night years ago when Bill Styron called in and said he didn't "get" David Letterman. Styron said, "Yes, he's mildly ironic, but ..." Letterman is from Indianapolis, which is one of the towns I'm from. I think I "get" Letterman pretty well, but that's another story. I thought of this quote as I was prowling around the recent AWP conference in Chicago. Are we poets too mildly ironic? Is the Midwest too mildly ironic, and poets are chameleons, therefore become too mildly ironic when they visit? Mulling this over as I rode the elevators, I thought maybe it would be interesting to post another poet's response to a midwestern conference many many years ago, as recorded by Richard Howard in his great book on American poetry, Alone With America:
"Not long ago, at one of our recurrent poetry conferences which suggest with all the force of an Euclidean proof--just look at those celluloid identification badges, typed with each poet's name and (of course) his university--that we are, even in our most notoriously dissident callings, a nation not of joiners merely, but of members; at one of those chapter meetings, then, in the endless volume of our self-concern, I listened to an address by a celebrated poet, an elderly professor it was, who had rised to the Collected Poems level and who, before arriving at our conference somewhere in the midwest, had reached for the wrong speech among (I imagine) several on his desk, thereupon regaling his fellows with a description of the bare-breasted beauties of Nigeria intended surely for the National Geographic Society. A married man, the father of daughters, it came as rather a shock to hear him extol the rare privilege of moving among a race of women proudly nude, and precisely then (though his own performance was not scheduled until much later in the program) Allen Ginsberg ... performed! He got up from the ring of chairs where the ulterior speakers were waiting for their turns to read their own poems, to speak their own thoughts, to do their own thing, and advancing solemnly--bearded, intent, unmistakeable--toward the old eulogist of noble savagery, he stepped up onto the dais and without a word, without a smile, without a single deprecating gesture, Allen Ginsberg took off all his clothes."
Jim, you make me laugh :)
Posted by: L.L. Barkat | March 27, 2012 at 06:15 PM
Me, too. :)
Posted by: Laura Orem | March 28, 2012 at 09:27 AM
Thanks; the absolutely best compliment, by my lights!
Posted by: jim c | March 28, 2012 at 10:34 AM
I'm still laughing. This is fantastic Jim. Thanks.
Posted by: Stacey | March 28, 2012 at 02:24 PM
"in the endless volume of our self-concern"--sweet.
Posted by: jim c | March 28, 2012 at 11:11 PM
But when is Jim Cummins going to take off HIS clothes and show us a physique honed by playing tether ball with pre-teen girls?
Posted by: Michael Keever | March 29, 2012 at 08:39 AM
Jim????
Posted by: Stacey | March 29, 2012 at 01:00 PM
hell yes and absolutely. oh how i miss ginsberg...and the age of wild and woolly poets being their wild and woolly selves! thank you for this.
Posted by: A Facebook User | March 29, 2012 at 01:26 PM
If anyone thinks I'm going to get naked with a bunch of pre-teen girls, forget it! Yeah, I grew up Catholic (like Michael Keever), but still ...
But here's a toast to the wild and woolly poets! Nowadays, we'd wear a nude body stocking ...
Posted by: jim c | March 29, 2012 at 02:10 PM